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THE PERFECT
POP UP

6 Weeks

Is Your Pop Up Ruining Your Surfing?

"Get The Ultimate TRAINING PROGRAM for Fixing & Improving Your Pop Up... For Good."

4.99 (195 reviews)
US$77.00 
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Sick of blowing waves due to poor pop up technique?

The pop up is the most fundamental skill when it comes to catching more waves.

This one action, which is really just a sequence of deceptively simple movements that anyone can master, is the difference between an embarrassing wipeout and the wave of a lifetime. 

A poor pop up technique reveals itself in many ways. If you recognize any of the following impediments, chances are that your pop up is to blame. 

YOU’RE NOT A KOOK

and you’re not too old… it’s your pop up technique that’s to blame

If old age, bad habits, a sedentary lifestyle or the inability to surf regularly are stopping you from riding waves and actually enjoying surfing, here’s some awesome news.

Our 6-week program promises to iron out deficiencies in your pop up technique by improving your fitness and flexibility so that you can:
Make more takeoffs
Ride better waves
Surf with confidence
Take your skills to the next level
Minimize the risk of injury

A simple, logical and proven program that’s guaranteed to reinvigorate your pop up

Our program is trusted by thousands of surfers of all skill levels and ages from all over the world.

Why? Because in only a matter of weeks this program will totally transform your pop up technique and help you ride better waves by identifying your limitations and fixing them for good using simple and logical workouts that develop strength, flexibility and coordination.

SEE WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING

4.99 out of 5 stars

195 reviews

  1. Mariesa I.

    Mariesa I. (verified owner)

    You probably need it...so just get it.

    I’ve been wanting to fix my bad surfing habits for quite some time, but never knew where to start. Picked up the Perfect Pop Up program in an effort to change what should have been changed long ago and I couldn’t be happier. Cris takes the time to fully explain everything in great detail, which for me is key….from joint specific stretches, to how your brain gets rewired and the fitness required in order to fix your bad habits. I’m still working on changing my bad habits but there’s definitely an improvement and I credit this program for it.

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  2. Simon R.

    Simon R. (verified owner)

    The perfect pop up

    4 weeks in quarantine with nothing to do! I thought I would finally do something about my pop up. Talk about instant improvement, the perfect pop up program has delivered immediate results. Money well spent.
    Simon R

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  3. Stephen P.

    Stephen P. (verified owner)

    Pop ups

    I have only had a couple of surfs since starting the program,but have found that already getting to my feet is becoming easier.I have surfed for over 50 years but found over the last few years,due to injuries that my standing up was becoming increasingly harder to do,so frustrating.But by following this program I am seeing benefits and am standing up a lot fluider,just need to practise it now so I can get quicker. Thankyou Cris

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  4. Michael d.

    Michael d. (verified owner)

    Old Guys Rule…their bodies don’t

    As an old surfer from DURBAN, South Africa, I’ve been living in the UK for the past 20 years not surfing…no much surf & the sea is freezing. But in Bristol, we now have the Wave.com wave pool…and I saw my arse there trying to surf for the first time in years.
    Turns out my body physically cannot perform a pop up…something that came naturally as a young man.
    Enter Surf Strength Coach.
    Chris’s walk up approach, stretching & training techniques have given me back what I thought I’d lost forever…the ability to surf once more…thank you 🙏 Awesome App…highly recommend this for anyone, any age & any ability!

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  5. Chris G.

    Chris G. (verified owner)

    Functional training means strength as well!!!!

    Cris Mills is the real deal . I absolutely love the program the videos are without a doubt my favourite part of the training program . The passion he has for helping is infectious . I can’t believe that all this training has enormously increased my strength as well. I surfed today and felt just how far my body has come along way since embracing this type of training . Had the best surf in ages .
    Highly highly recommend to anyone!!!!!
    Thanks for the wisdom Cris .

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  6. Nick D.

    Nick D. (verified owner)

    Just what I’ve been looking for
    Great programs
    After 45 years of surfing just the tools I needed to get back into something I love
    I was very close to throwing in the towel
    Thanks Chris

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HERE’S WHAT to expect

This process walks you through the actual technique of Pop Up form

How to identify your limitations, and how to fix them for good. You also get access to workouts that will improve not only your flexibility and strength for perfect Pop-Ups,  but will also influence your surfing.

01

Step-by-step instructions
A step-by-step process that breaks down every movement into easy to understand language

02

Technique fundamentals
By explaining the fundamentals we give you a solid base from which to build upon

03

Identify What's Wrong
Assessment process to identify your limitations, and what is breaking down pop up attempts. You'll be able to identify what is truly holding you back.

04

Surf specific workouts
All of our workouts and exercises have been specifically designed by surfers, for surfers

05

Increased confidence
A looser body and better technique will increase your confidence in all types of waves

06

Radical results
Get a fluid and flawless pop up in a matter of weeks and never blow the wave of a lifetime again
Catch more waves. Have more fun.

Stroke in
smooth
pop up
bottom turn
get
tuuuuubed

HERE's What you get

Our pop up program promises to make you feel energized and enthusiastic about surfing once again after only a few workout sessions.
Thanks to the many surf specific exercises, stretches and movements contained within, you can compensate for a lack of hours in the water or a loss of surfing endurance. This leads to more waves and of course... more stoke.
Sign up to our program and get access to two thorough, clearly explained and easy to implement modules.

LEARN

This module gives you a better understanding of the pop up process, what’s required from your body in order to consistently perform a fluid pop up and how to properly execute certain exercises, stretches and movement drills.
Pop up basics
Theory and technique
Strength and mobility assessments
Joint stretches and mobilizations
Bonus coaching support

TRAIN

This is where you begin performing the exercises, stretches and movement drills covered in the Learn module as workouts. This module is broken up into Phase 1 and Phase 2, each of which has 3 weeks of workouts for a program total of 6 weeks.
Dynamic warm-up
Tissue release
Mobility exercises
Strength training
Pop up movement drills
Core workouts
Catch more waves. Surf better.

Access Your Training Wherever You Are 24/7

Download it and access Offline!

Our fast, easy to use and secure app lets you access your account wherever you need it.

HERE's WHAT YOU WILL NEED

You don’t need an expensive gym membership, nor are you required to commit hours of precious time every week to see rapid yet long-lasting results. All you need in order to take your pop up from abysmal to awesome is the following:
Up to 30 minutes for each session
Time for 2 to 4 sessions per week
A positive attitude and a willingness to learn

Exercise ball

Foam roller

Full circle resistance band (1-inch width)

Two tennis balls duct-taped together

Want To See A List of Equipment Recommendations?  Click Here: EQUIPMENT LISTS

Frequently Asked Questions

Do I have access to the program forever?
Yes! Once you purchase the program you will get lifetime access and discounts on new programs.
What Equipment do I need?
All you will need for this program is:
  • Two taped tennis balls duct taped together
  • Full circle resistance strap 1 inch width
  • Foam roller
  • Exercise ball
Can beginners do the program?
Absolutely, there are alternative and progressive movements for each level.
How is the program delivered to me?
This is a digital program intended to be downloaded to your mobile device so you always have it with you during your workouts. Once you join the Surf Athlete Training Program, you will receive access to the entire program. Download everything and it’s yours forever.
Why Is Equipment Required?
There are basic equipment requirements for this training program, but with these basic tools you'll be able to train effectively for years to come.  To train efficiently in the movement patterns that carry over to surfing, applied resistance is required.  
Refund Policy
All purchases made on our website, or via the Surf Strength Coach app platform are NON-REFUNDABLE.  We proudly stand by our work, programs, and training protocols, and you can readily view the numerous testimonials regarding our programs if you are unsure of the quality of our work. Due to the downloadable nature of our programs, and considerations of Intellectual Property, refunds will not be granted for any training programs or educational programs.
How to Download the Program?
Programs within the Surf Athlete can be downloaded so you can access them offline.

Program content is downloaded to within the app. Separate files are not downloaded to your phone or laptop. Files are saved within the app itself, so they can be accessed offline.

This function works for the web app on your desktop / laptop, and also the phone app.

How Bad is Your Pop Up?

Is it setting you up to flow, or flailing in the whitewash?

Failed Pop Ups are incredibly frustrating, and ultimately limit your surfing. You don't have to fail and fumble with your takeoffs anymore. Think of how radically this could change your surfing.

Better Pop Ups = Better Waves.

The Entire Program
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The Ultimate Guide to Fixing & Improving Your Pop Up… For Good. Fix, refine, rebuild, or regain your perfect pop up. Your surfing starts with your pop up, so make sure it’s perfect and effortless.

What others are saying

  1. One person found this helpful
    Ben E.

    Ben E. (verified owner)

    I absolutely love the pop up program. Cris’ instructional videos helped me realise and solve a problem with my ankle. Not only has this helped my pop up but also helped my turns as I now have full range of motion with that ankle again. I can’t thank him enough!

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  2. One person found this helpful
    Thibault Mokuenko M.

    Thibault Mokuenko M. (verified owner)

    I searched for this for so long ! Worth every penny, it’s all the informations you needed to master the take off.

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  3. One person found this helpful
    Edgar C.

    Edgar C. (verified owner)

    The Program Delivers!

    I’ve always had problem with my Pop up as i always end up stepping more forward on the board and so far from the tail pad.
    This program helped me fixed that and much more. The program is broken down into simple and easy to understand steps and shows you the importance of flexibility and strength.
    by the end of phase 1, i can see improvements already and by the end of Phase 2 i was already popping up(walk up) like cris on his videos. I am excited to get back in the water and test my new pop up skill.

    Huge Thanks Cris! This changes a lot!

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  4. One person found this helpful
    Joao V.

    Joao V. (verified owner)

    Perfect Workout!

    Its super easy to do in home and i’m starting seeing results after the fist week!!!

    Thank u!!

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    Joshua Keen Server K.

    Joshua Keen Server K. (verified owner)

    Perfect pop up program has been revolutionary

    The best things I’ve learned from your programs are that all of the movements you teach should be natural movements that our bodies should already know how to do. When I commit to training and get these new movements into my range of motion I notice that I’m able to move more freely. Another great moment has come from learning when to stop training if something doesn’t feel right and that “pain is not gain”! Although I get a great workout, I always feel more charged up afterwards and warmed up rather than defeated and needing a day of rest.

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  6. One person found this helpful
    Sam M.

    Sam M. (verified owner)

    A note to say how much and why your program is meaning so much to me.

    I’m 58 years old tomorrow. 1 year ago I was just about to finish up a 6 month surf trip with my youngest son and just honestly realised that the one thing in my life that had always been pure joy – surfing!

    Then COVID, locked down on return to France, no surf, and remote working – ouch! But your program gave a way out. OK so I couldn’t surf, but I can get my old bones working like never before. I’m not ready to give up on my short board damn it!.

    I got stuck into the 12 week program and then couldn’t give it up. From an older perspective the results are actually amplified – and I’ve stayed seriously fit all my life. But the mix of workouts + muscle and joint care have really made a difference.

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    Mindi R.

    Mindi R. (verified owner)

    we have the stoke!

    This is awesome, Cris! Just wanted to let you know my hubby and I LOVE the app, tutorials, and updates. I use the Flow routine whenever I need to reset or have an active recovery day. Keep inspiring.

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  8. Craig M.

    Craig M. (verified owner)

    Loving the program!

    I’ve surfed for 3 decades and have been in sport and training for just as long. I’ve seen lots of coaches, lots of trainers, and lots of methods over the years. I can confidently claim that this is a very well organised and planned program. I’m learning movements that have invigorated my pop up and my surfing.

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  9. Brett S.

    Brett S.

    Stoked!

    I’m stoked on this Pop Up Program. It’s the best overall approach to fitness for surfing that I’ve come across. The program has really helped with my speed and padding in the water as well. Very happy customer!

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  10. Kate A.

    Kate A. (verified owner)

    Get this program

    If you surf, and you like to train and stay fit, do yourself a favor and get this program!

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  11. Thera B.

    Thera B. (verified owner)

    Well rounded tools and technical instruction

    I’m at that dreaded beginner-intermediate level of surfing where I am trying to transition to a shorter board and get into better green waves – and I was struggling with getting a quick pop up. This program helped me with my form and also mobility limitations specific to the surfing pop up. It’s easy to do and feels great and I’m glad I purchased this!! Great investment.

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  12. Barry A.

    Barry A. (verified owner)

    Pop Up Program

    Although I am just starting out getting through this program, I can see how it will benefit me. Also for the money, this is good value. I will be putting the program into good use because I am using this to prep for a trip to Tavarua in May!

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  13. Scott C.

    Scott C. (verified owner)

    Surf fitness for every level and age.

    I’ve been surfing for over 30 years but had some ankle problems and this was affecting my pop-up. I had a loss in stability and was causing me to more often lose balance on steeper waves. After using the pop-up program I identified other areas of muscle tightness and area that just needed more TLC. Now I’m making more take offs. My ankle is not causing any problems and I am now focussed on the overall health of my body for surfing. Now to work on my shoulders!!!

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  14. James W.

    James W. (verified owner)

    Nth of 60

    I am nth of 60 and have been struggling with pop up’s body getting old and stiff, have found the pop up program to be beneficial in many ways and is definitely helping with improved flexibility and technique . Great program thanks

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  15. Jeff L.

    Jeff L. (verified owner)

    Fix your pop up

    Great program. Goes beyond the basic of how to do a pop up, but gives you the tools to assist you in fixing your body with the right stretching or work to fix your body parts that are stuck with limited movement or flow. Worth the small investment.
    Jeff

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  16. John E.

    John E. (verified owner)

    John.E

    I would highly recommend this program,the content is extensive and extremely well delivered,I’ve been surfing for 10 years and only now have the knowledge of how my body should be able to move thanks to Cris,it’s exciting to have a plan to improve,thanks Cris.

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  17. Magnus N.

    Magnus N. (verified owner)

    Perfect pop-up

    This program is so good. I felt my hips and back held my pop up back. I felt too stiff and slow and didn’t really know where to begin to
    sort it out. This program was spot on. I used it for a month before my latest surf trip to Portugal and really felt the difference. Everything worked smoother and I had better confidence ,was more calm and caught more waves! Strongly recommend.

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  18. Sam E.

    Sam E. (verified owner)

    Improve your life, health and surfing

    Cris has put together a series of programs that are not only enhancing my surfing , but my overall health and wellbeing. Whether you’re starting off out of shape, or in reasonable condition like myself, the program will develop your motor skills and desire to get fluid. I use many of the exercises as general everyday stretches to start the day well. Worth the investment!

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  19. Aaron A.

    Aaron A. (verified owner)

    Stoked on the mobility work!

    Big fan of this program, particularly the focus on mobility. The mobility evaluations were especially helpful. I was able to establish that it was really my hips that were my limiting factor rather than my hamstrings and calves. Digging in on the hips has improved range of movement quickly. I should also add that the strength training is very effectively targeted toward improving pop ups.

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  20. Andy Woof W.

    Andy Woof W. (verified owner)

    Fit & flexible

    After seriously injuring my knee this program kept me fit and flexible so that when I recovered I could get straight back into my surfing. Thanks for a great program Chris.

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  21. George L.

    George L. (verified owner)

    Pop up training

    Hey Cris it has been a long road but believing in the process I am now starting to see results! Thank you so much for all of your help! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

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  22. woody w.

    woody w. (verified owner)

    pop up

    Just started the pop up program, loved the assessment part its helping get right to the areas that are the most in need of attention. I’am seventy and ruptured a disk two years ago with causes flexibility issues.My daily go to board is a 5 ft fish & the results from the program are making that much more fun & allowing me to use it in more critical waves

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  23. Rob T.

    Rob T. (verified owner)

    Pop up and life stuff

    Love the program, particularly the combo of science stuff and practical surf exercises to improve muscles and tissues for improved flexibility, strength, and range of motion. I not only like Cris’ approach, but I like the way he makes himself available to respond to questions, videos, etc. in an encouraging way. Hey, the rest is up to you! Thanks again, bra!

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  24. Shane B.

    Shane B. (verified owner)

    Mind shift

    Cris has taught me to look at the pop up in a different way which has really helped me understand what to aim for and progress has been great

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  25. Scott M.

    Scott M. (verified owner)

    Exactly what I hoped for!

    Thanks for your help! As an athlete, I have learned how to make minor adjustments to my technique and routines that lead to huge improvements in my performance. Because surfing was always something I did on the side, I never invested time in learning some of these fundamental techniques. I always just kind of felt my way through things, well that hasn’t worked as well with surfing. This module has given me the head knowledge I needed to make huge improvements in my pop up. While I still have a ways to go to reach my goals, I am confident in this part of the puzzle. Thanks again!

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  26. Chris F.

    Chris F. (verified owner)

    Best technique instruction out there

    They way Chris breaks down the pop-up technique is easily the best instruction I’ve seen – and I’ve watched a tonne of you tube’s on this. His is a different, and I think much better, way of working on the pop up. After only 3 weeks working on the technique I can feel the improvement in the water and am getting more wave time by sticking more pop-ups.

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  27. Jason S.

    Jason S. (verified owner)

    Really appreciate how the program broke down the process into easy-to-understand steps that made a world of difference. Highly recommended

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  28. German L.

    German L. (verified owner)

    Honors its Title.... Perfect Pop Up

    Been doing this training for over two months now, after the first two weeks I could immediately tell the difference in speed and looseness of my body as I Popped Up. Really enhances good postures, timing and correct movements to perfect you Pop Up. Now I keep on doing it as a part of a lifetime morning before go to work routine. Thumbs up Cris!!!

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    Complete surf mindset

    I live in the city, so if I want to surf, I need to drive at least 2-3 hrs, that means that I cant surf everyday, and just on weekends. Saying that, keep in shape during the week is key for a good performance. This program has been really useful to complement the lack of surf hours and avoid loosing endurance. Also, this program is not only about working out, but the complete mindset of surf, telling you things like ´why we have to do certain exercise to improve pop up or bottom turn, etc´, so you start thinking about your future movements for the next session while you´re working out. Thanks Cris.

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  30. Ashlee S.

    Ashlee S. (verified owner)

    Big value!

    The depth and breadth of content in the app is great. I was a little hesitant at first the drop the $$ on the paid programs but they are SO worth it. Plus new content is added frequently enough to keep it fresh (and add more value to your $$). Definitely feel like I got more than my money’s worth out of the paid program (Surf Athlete and Perfect Pop Up). But the free content is solid too. You won’t be disappointed.

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  31. Joel P.

    Joel P. (verified owner)

    The Perfect Pop Up

    A little background for others see if this could benefit them. Grew up surfing my whole life, last 20 years I have lived inland away from the coast. I am 60 and wanted to get back into surfing. I get to surf once a quarter, so hard to improve my surfing. My main problem was popping up, once I was up, I was able to ride the wave pretty good. I started the program and it was able to pin point my weaknesses, and I began his program to work on. I have been consistent in my workouts two times a week the past 3 months. I went surfing at the BSR Surf Park in Waco, TX this past weekend and did much much better in my pop-ups. It is nice to improve even when I don’t get much wave time in.

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  32. Nick H.

    Nick H. (verified owner)

    The Best Online Surf Instruction On Web!

    Can’t recommend enough, 5 stars! This program breaks things down in a very systemic way so you know exactly what you need to focus on. I am now more aware of bad habits, starting to pop up better, and catching more waves because of this program. Thank you Cris!

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  33. Paul J.

    Paul J. (verified owner)

    Changed My Life

    When I initially started this training, my primary focus was on improving my surfing pop up which for some reason had gone to custard in the last 12 months. Probably a combination of ageing and just bad habits plus never having had a good tutor like Cris to sort it out too. I’ve mostly been a competitive runner all my life and surfing has been my part time passion to provide mental stress relief and it’s just such a great sport. As soon as I started into the pop up program, my running improved!? Great side effect!! The quality of this program cannot be underestimated and Cris’s inspirational and informative emails are also right on the mark for not only surfing but all aspects of your life. You cannot underestimate how much of an impact this has had for me and my wife and kids are probably sick of hearing me rave on about it but I’ve never been involved in anything even close to this quality. The app and/or website are both very well designed and very easy to use, the videos for every exercise or stretch are very clear, it’s hard to make a mistake with this and if you do have any feedback, Cris responds to emails too. If there was a 6 star rating, it would be given here.

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  34. Pete K.

    Pete K. (verified owner)

    Great program

    This program has really helped me improve the speed of my pop-up, which in turn improves my position going down the line. Before the program I thought I should just jump to my feet as quick as possible without giving much thought to technique. The program leads you to develop a smooth, fluid, pop-up being light on your feet instead of just stomping on the board. The program also helps with general strengthening and mobility. I highly recommend to people who are having problems or lack confidence which their pop-up.

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  35. Chris R.

    Chris R. (verified owner)

    Comprehensive and authentic

    Cris delivers a comprehensive and holistic approach with real passion and energy! He wants us to improve and it shows. I love Cris’s authenticity, attention to detail and professionalism. I have multiple health issues that have slowed down my surfing – since working with SSC, my goals are more defined, awareness and knowledge are improved. Highly recommended! Thanks Cris

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  36. Dan M.

    Dan M. (verified owner)

    Outstanding

    This has been super helpful. The pop-up has always been something you just do, but to get it broken down into an actual process has given me a much greater understanding, and shown me how I can improve it. I have seen real results with this, and highly recommend. My kids have also loved it

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  37. david g.

    david g.

    Chris is the real deal

    I’ve been a lifelong surfer with extensive experience in SoCal, Hawaii, Fiji, and Mexico. However, after having life events come along, such as a wife and kids, desk jobs, the weight from my desk job and lack of activity took a toll on me. After implementing an exercise and weight loss regime, I was still having a hard time practicing my pop ups at home. I hired Chris to help me diagnose the issue. It was worth every penny. I my case flexibility was the issue, and Chris helped me get it sorted out. So whether you choose the pop up program, or hire Chris for a customized plan like I did, he will help you out and get you ready for your next surf trip.

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  38. Keith A.

    Keith A. (verified owner)

    Hmmm the help this program has given to a beat up old man is immense. Thanks Chris

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  39. Mark T.

    Mark T. (verified owner)

    Progressed my surfing

    I was struggling with my pop-ups. At first I thought it was just a confidence thing. Turns out, it was mostly my poor technique and conditioning; and this wasn’t something that I could fully acknowledge until I started the program. The popup technique program has allowed me to reevaluate my popup technique, and also greatly improve my body conditioning to support my surfing. Each day I have noticed improvements in my pop-up to the point now where my confidence has increased and I can just focus on enjoying surfing waves and improving other aspects of my surfing. And it’s not just the videos in the program that are awesome, it’s the ongoing support through direct contact with Cris that is appreciated. I highly recommend this program to anyone who surfs at any level!

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  40. Jonathan S.

    Jonathan S. (verified owner)

    If you are having even the slightest pop up issue-- this course is for you!!

    Amazing! Everything is broken down step by step. Chris shows you the best way to do something and the best way to practice it…

    After a couple of months of me being really busy at work, I never did much surfing. When I got back to the water I was popping up like a complete beginner tool… except I’m not a beginner at all so it was even worse. I didn’t even know exactly what was the problem. Was my core not strong enough, was my technique off- I had no idea. Anyway, within 3 lessons my pop up was 100% better. I’m the type of surfer that likes to make late/ steep takeoffs and I even learned a takeoff technique with the program that helps me guarantee my back foot is in the right position in those crazy, critical moments.

    Chris really puts a lot into his coaching. He cares and he wants you to succeed. He almost sends you too much information :). If you are serious about your surfing in any way, this entire program is the one-stop-shop for technique and fitness/ body issues.

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  41. Stephen T.

    Stephen T. (verified owner)

    Making It Simple

    Great breakdown and step by step explanation provided by Cris to improve your pop up.
    I have found the exercise program to support the explanation is tailored perfectly.
    The bonus is you feel better overall.

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  42. Oliver M.

    Oliver M. (verified owner)

    Im what you’d consider an average joe,
    I surf average, i train average
    Until i got this!
    Really easy to follow and i have got a lot out of it.
    Highly recomended,
    Thanks Cris

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  43. George L.

    George L. (verified owner)

    Pop up training

    As a lifelong surfer who is now 55 years old and had both hips replaced the struggle was real. My frustration level was through the roof. The results were not immediate for me but the more I did the program the more I started seeing some muscles and muscle memory come back. By no means is my pop up perfect every time but I am really feeling the results and I am now getting out of the water with a smile on my face instead of a frown.Last Sunday was my best sesh in many moons! Thanks Cris and my core is really feeling the results as well. Thanks for the help physically and mentally ! You rule!

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  44. jeff W.

    jeff W. (verified owner)

    Solid advice

    Chris and Clay have a crystal clear way of breaking down the basics of the mechanics needed. And just the right amount of focus, not too much distracting info, just the clear facts to be able to improve. Their concepts have helped me easily reacquire skills I used to have when I was young. Now unfortunately at 60 years, I had some flexibility and negative habits formed. Too much damn sitting. Now I’m back- great info here

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  45. Michael D.

    Michael D. (verified owner)

    Surf Pop Up

    Solid, well thought out approach to the pop up. Fitness and repetition play their part, but knowing the mechanics to work on is simply very important to this key aspect of surfing, especially when you are beginner/intermediate level. I’d recommend it…
    Michael D.

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  46. Christopher C.

    Christopher C. (verified owner)

    Chris C.

    Been watching Cris’ videos for years and so pumped they’re now up on a very sleek app.

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  47. John E.

    John E. (verified owner)

    Perfect pop up-trust the process

    Highly recommend this program,My flexibility has increased dramatically since I began using this program,I have a set warm up before surfing, have more endurance in the water,less injury’s and more importantly making a lot more waves!!!thanks Cris.

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  48. Alexis P.

    Alexis P. (verified owner)

    Best program to start with!

    If you re starting with surf strenght I would definitely recommend to start with that one! The changes on my surfing were radical. Now even after the program I still go back to it and reword on some stuff. So much good stuff in it!

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  49. Chas D.

    Chas D. (verified owner)

    Commit and Succeed

    This is a great program. Clear easy to understand instruction to help you reach your goal.

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  50. Guy L.

    Guy L. (verified owner)

    Movement&Technique

    As a person who likes to go straight to the point, and connected to sports in general,
    This program was excellent for me.
    A set of specific exercises that deal with every aspect of surfing (movement, flexibility and power),
    And especially the PopUp technique .
    Two major points in the program that changed and significantly improved my technique , were the Foam Roler guidance,
    and the correct PopUp technique videos.
    The consistent practice of these two points has improved my surfing skills, and improved me as an athlete also in other sports fields
    such as Martial Arts etc.

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  51. Diego S.

    Diego S. (verified owner)

    Pop Up and Fly🙏🏼

    I have been using the free workout in the app for a couple of weeks and was really enjoying it, when the covid lockdown came I decided to get the pop up program to iron out a few little bad habits that have crept into my take off. WOW, after two weeks I can really feel the benefits, I would say 100 % better. Easy to follow instructions that actually make sense. Commit to it tho, work hard and reap the rewards.

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  52. Diego S.

    Diego S. (verified owner)

    Pop Up and Fly🙏🏼

    I have been using the free workout in the app for a couple of weeks and was really enjoying it, when the covid lockdown came I decided to get the pop up program to iron out a few little bad habits that have crept into my take off. WOW, after two weeks I can really feel the benefits, I would say 100 % better. Easy to follow instructions that actually make sense. Commit to it tho, work hard and reap the rewards.

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  53. Chris S.

    Chris S. (verified owner)

    Perfect Pop Up for all

    Great program that not only teaches perfect technique but teaches you about your mobility and how to improve your mobility to help your surfing.
    I’ve used this program as have my kids and the program has helped us all improve our Pop Ups.
    Get on it!

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  54. Chris S.

    Chris S. (verified owner)

    Perfect Pop Up for all

    Great program that not only teaches perfect technique but teaches you about your mobility and how to improve your mobility to help your surfing.
    I’ve used this program as have my kids and the program has helped us all improve our Pop Ups.
    Get on it!

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  55. Scott C.

    Scott C. (verified owner)

    Great for making improvements

    Using the Perfect Pop Up program helped improve some strength issues after rolling my ankle. I was having front foot Strength issues and this helped focus on flexibility and improving some bad technique.

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  56. David G.

    David G. (verified owner)

    As I’ve got older and had less time to surf, I started to struggle with my flexibility and agility which affected my surfing. After a recommendation from a friend I purchased The Perfect Pop Up. I found the program improved my issues but also helped with my strength.

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  57. David G.

    David G. (verified owner)

    As I’ve got older and had less time to surf, I started to struggle with my flexibility and agility which affected my surfing. After a recommendation from a friend I purchased The Perfect Pop Up. I found the program improved my issues but also helped with my strength.

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  58. Dan M.

    Dan M.

    The Perfect pup up program has really helped me with my flexibility to get up and surf! Thanks a lot Cris

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  59. Colin G.

    Colin G. (verified owner)

    Pop up really helped

    Hard to believe after almost 30 years of surfing I needed to relearn how to get it up but it’s true. Aging and osteo arthritis have taken their toll and after a couple of cold winter months out the water I struggle to stand up. Embarrassing to say the least… My cousin turned me on to Chris’ videos and my wife scored me the series for Christmas and after a month of getting in to and using the series my pop up is back! Chris’ simple and logical stretching concepts have helped and now I’m hooked and will be using it for overall body health and limberness. Thx Chris!

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  60. Jeff R.

    Jeff R. (verified owner)

    "The Perfect Pop-Up" Traingin Classs Review

    Excellent, easy to follow training

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  61. Tiffany H.

    Tiffany H. (verified owner)

    Not just a program

    This program and Cris has helped me with my health and fitness in and out of surfing! He gives you so much information, drills, plans, videos and motivation. I could tell immediately this program want some ‘get rich quick’/social media influencer bs. Thanks so much! Every penny was worth it.

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  62. Mark H.

    Mark H. (verified owner)

    Stoked

    40 years of surfing and have a few niggling injury’s that have affected my range of motion. Chris,s info on of movement and programs to sort it out have helped immensely. I,m now stronger where I need it and more fluid. Just what I needed. Thanks Chris

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  63. Scott A.

    Scott A. (verified owner)

    Fixed my pop up

    Excellent instruction on pop up technique and physical requirements for pop up improvement.

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  64. Inigo G.

    Inigo G. (verified owner)

    The whole package

    Desk surfer 11 months a year. I tried and practised the mobility, pop-up and strength exercises and for that one month everything except the joints clicks.

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  65. Inigo G.

    Inigo G. (verified owner)

    Marked improvement with my pop-up.

    Desk surfer 11 months a year. I tried and practised the mobility, pop-up and strength exercises and for that one month everything except the joints clicks.

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  66. Adam A.

    Adam A. (verified owner)

    ADAM

    This program is legit. I’ve gotten heaps from it. Get amongst it yeeeew🤙

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  67. Aleksi A.

    Aleksi A. (verified owner)

    Perfect Pop-Up

    This program is golden. Just like all material I have seen from Cris.

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  68. Shawn C.

    Shawn C. (verified owner)

    Worth the investment

    If you’re serious about surfing and the journey it will take you on Cris and his program are worth the money. I’m not going to say I waisted the first three decades in the water paddling and trying to improve on my own but I sure could have accelerated my progress with information like this a long time ago. I look forward to seeing more from SSC in the future!! Thanks Cris

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  69. Ted P.

    Ted P. (verified owner)

    Stop watching endless YouTube popup videos and buy this

    I have been surfing for a long time but, as I have gotten older, my popups were getting worse. For months I felt like I watched every YouTube video I could find about popups – specifically shortboard (off the knees) popups. To be clear, I could (and still can) do an “explosive pop” to land on both of my feet. But I noticed that when I was in the water, I was missing too many good waves from a popup that didn’t land my feet in just the right places. I was looking for a more consistent popup because doing all the work to paddle into a position to catch a good wave and blowing it SUCKS.

    When I first started using this program, I was kind of unsure/bummed out because it seemed like he was just teaching the old “chicken wing” method. If you are worried about that, don’t stress. As I kept following the program I realized that the “walk up to popup” program is designed to make popups way smoother/easier (meaning less blown opportunities to ride) and that the “chicken wing” naturally progresses to a non-chicken-wing popup as you add speed.

    Solid program with all of the strength and mobility training required to help anyone popup effectively.

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  70. Jason B.

    Jason B. (verified owner)

    Awesome. 100% Totally worth it.

    Bought one. Liked it so much, I bought 2 more.

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  71. Jason B.

    Jason B. (verified owner)

    Awesome. 100% Totally worth it.

    Bought one. Liked it so much, I bought 2 more.

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  72. Eduardo L.

    Eduardo L. (verified owner)

    Perfect Pop up

    Very good.

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  73. Beel B.

    Beel B. (verified owner)

    Fantastic program! Cris is extremely knowledgeable and explains the content in a way that is easy to grasp and apply!

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  74. simon m.

    simon m. (verified owner)

    Just what I needed

    After 35 years I have fixed my pop up! Pop up and Coffee Cup has improved my surfing 100%

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  75. Claire Christie C.

    Claire Christie C. (verified owner)

    Absolutely love it

    I have been trying to become a better surfer for many years. I chose the pop up program because I could recognise in myself that I had major limitations that prevented me from improving my skill, ability and enjoyment of surfing any further. I absolutely recommend the 6-week program to everyone even if you don’t surf because what I found when completing the program was a better overall health and movement which improved my surfing, running and enjoyment of everyday life. The lastest update is even better than the first which I loved. It’s not just a token update but a deliberate action by Cris to improve advice, use new language (of which thinking of it as a walk up has really helped me) along with intervention of detailed breakdown of professional surfer pop-ups. I really recommend the program and I plan to purchase others to get even more growth.

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  76. Jerry D.

    Jerry D. (verified owner)

    If you put in the effort you’ll get results

    The videos are great and my pop up has improved significantly. I had surgery three months ago to help with an ankle impingement and have been following your program for about a month now. I was at San Onofre last week and had the best day I’ve ever had. I caught probably 10 waves and had a blast. Hopefully I can improve enough to start using a short board down the road.

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  77. Florent E.

    Florent E. (verified owner)

    Very good workout

    I’m stoke to get those very good workouts which are following me everyday and give me strengh but also focus on my goals.
    thanks to the team!!

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  78. Steve S.

    Steve S. (verified owner)

    Hold yourself accountable

    I have never been able to pop up before, I’m an older fella and have been following the program and gaining great results, still a way to go things are going forward. Cheers great job.

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  79. Laurence G.

    Laurence G.

    Better than anything else online

    I watched almost every ‘pop-up’ up video I could find online and was still not getting my pop-up to click. There is NOTHING I have seen online that describes the theory of the pop-up like Chris does. My improvements were instant and it’s really accelerated my surfing.

    As for the strength & conditioning component, I worked as an S&C coach for BJJ for several years and can speak from a place of experience that Chris REALLY KNOWS HIS SHIT!

    His knowledge is spot on and his delivery is excellent. I cannot recommend this program enough. Buy it, use it, catch more waves

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  80. Anthony D.

    Anthony D. (verified owner)

    Totally Recommend!

    The area I notice the most improvement in is with my pop ups. I practice the skill most days. I am getting up so much faster, trimming, and down the line before I even know what is happening. I would definitely recommend the Perfect Pop Up for anyone wanting to improve there pop ups, mobility and overall surf fitness.

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  81. Ryan L.

    Ryan L. (verified owner)

    Stoked

    I’m two weeks in and I can feel a difference in the water. Its fucking great

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  82. Chris S.

    Chris S. (verified owner)

    Looking forward to getting into more programs!!!

    I really like the way Cris breaks things down to first principles like skills and movements and build it up from there. Most of the other YouTube ‘experts’ just show a video of them on a wave or on a surf skate or whatever, without giving you the core principle or movement to work on and build up to achieve a level of skill. The walk up to pop up is a great example.

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  83. Rod N.

    Rod N. (verified owner)

    A magical program!

    Got out for my first surf today since checking out your Pop up videos. All the tips you cover in those videos are so good and different to what I’ve had going on in my head all these years! Creating stability from pelvis pressed onto board, legs squeezed together and arching spine while paddling in, instead of slumping them down and forward, made so much difference today and the walk up is magic! Thanks heaps!

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  84. Sam B.

    Sam B. (verified owner)

    HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!

    I am a 46 year old intermediate surfer, who was struggling with my pop up and general mobility. I started my journey with Cris at Surf Strength Coach when I came across his “Fix your pop up” program. This changed my surfing and opened my eyes to a lot of things that I had been doing wrong for years. I now subscribe to Cardboard Surfer, Surf Athlete, Stretches for Surfers and Fix my Pop Up. I can’t recommend these programs enough. The stretching, the techniques and the exercises are so beneficial, and all taught/ explained in a simple way that is easy to get your head around. Cris and his Surf Strength programs have changed the way I look at surfing, and I have improved out of sight.

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  85. Eric L.

    Eric L. (verified owner)

    An awesome program!

    I still have a long way to go fitness-wise but I’m working on that using your program, as well as a local surfer’s gym. I also love that you keep updating the programs with refreshed and new content! 

    So a big thank you, and I hope I’ll be able to redeem that failed Samoan trip at some point! 

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  86. Warren H.

    Warren H.

    totally worth investing in the pop-up program

    I’m loving the app and program. I feel like I’ve progressed a ton already in terms of my understanding of what a pop-up is and I’m just getting started.

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  87. Mason H.

    Mason H. (verified owner)

    Enjoy this program so much!

    You are an absolute legend. I have been thoroughly enjoying this program and my surfing has gone through the roof.

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  88. Pete S.

    Pete S. (verified owner)

    So pumped!

    Just did my first phase 2 workout. Pumped. Really liked the changes in the dynamic flow and the step up in the exercises. Anyway, I got in the water during hurricane Delta and there was one wave in particular that I caught, and thought: “shoot, too late, not going to make this one” but i popped up and planted my feet and was good to go. I thought, man, even after phase 1, my balance is way better out here. So thanks for putting together a solid program. I’m excited to see where it takes me.

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  89. William S.

    William S. (verified owner)

    I am glad I purchased this program , Thanks Cris!

    I have have been seeing a difference , such as mindset into sprinter position , giving me more fluidity in movement upright on the board , no way yet.perfect , but getting a lot more enjoyment in the surf. I have learnt so much about body mechanics, such us mobility, skill and strength to the improvement on the technique. the end of the course the 30 minute video is gold.

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  90. Gregory M.

    Gregory M. (verified owner)

    I just wanted to thank you for the programs..

    I am about 6 weeks into the perfect pop up and am virtually pain free. Also, you can see from the pictures I’m improving in my flexibility, hands up and eyes and head focused to my target. Even at 59 years old it’s possible to regain my confidence.

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  91. Scott A.

    Scott A. (verified owner)

    Helpful information!

    A lot of very helpful information in the program!

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  92. Roan R.

    Roan R. (verified owner)

    I love the app so much!

    Seems like a perfect time to just say how much I LOVE the app and all the workouts, Im feeling so strong and so psyched about my surfing! It’s f***ing bomber!

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  93. eric v.

    eric v. (verified owner)

    Congrats!

    Really an impressive program Chris ,original very comprhensive and well structured, you’ve done your homework.

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  94. Eric S.

    Eric S. (verified owner)

    This program deserves a long review!

    Your program has literally saved my surfing. I’m not there yet, but close. The pop up funk was ruining any chance at fun, and whenever I got stuck in a downward dog(WTF!) I was so disgusted I felt like walking away altogether! But I’ve been taking international trips for years, and I will never let that go, even when I get to the age when supping is the only option. I’ve been in the water with 200lb guys supping on 7’10s, and ripping. So the future looks bright!

    But until then, I’ll surf. The fluid walk up to pop up is coming around quickly, and I can feel how the quicker push off the knees is an extension of the slower version. After working on the technique, one moment of clarity was seeing how key hip mobility is to keeping it fluid. I think I still have the core strength and reasonable flexibility, so shedding the lbs will be huge. Practicing your method while getting stronger, lighter and more flexible will lead to a great outcome! I’ve been 153-55 since high school and am now at 166. I’ve always believed that since we lose muscle mass as we age, we should get lighter as we get older(I’m now 66) not heavier. Of course, it’s the opposite for everyone I know. So my hunch is I should be ~150 max. That will go a LONG way to improving the quick get-up. Imagine popping up with a 15lb dumb bell on the small of your back!

    Another ah-hah moment was SO simple and seemingly obvious – look down the line! I went to Nicaragua 6 yrs ago, and got my lunch handed to me. Mostly because I seldom surf beach breaks, but now in hindsight I realize I was looking straight down a seriously sucking face, and not looking where I should be going! Even surfing my home break now, when I focus down the line the waves look so much softer it feels like I have more time to get up fluidly.

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  95. Victor M.

    Victor M. (verified owner)

    So happy I found this app!

    I wanted to congratulate you for the app, I’ve been looking for something like this for months and I’m very happy to have found surf strength coach.

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  96. Edgardo F.

    Edgardo F. (verified owner)

    Thank you!

    This program help me a lot I only 9 mounth surf and I progres a lot with this!

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  97. Steve S.

    Steve S. (verified owner)

    Thanks for the program!

    I just wanted to let you know that I think your programs are the best I have ever seen and done. You really know your stuff.

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  98. Tim M.

    Tim M. (verified owner)

    Thanks Cris

    I just wanted to say how much I am enjoying the app and training. I was doing everyday Gum sort of work outs before but am loving this because it’s more specific to surfing and something I love doing.

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  99. Ka’iulani B.

    Ka’iulani B. (verified owner)

    Sharing your videos with my coworkers!

    Can’t go without your app! I’m a lifeguard on Oahu and an avid stand up boogie/surfer, all of your videos and knowledge has changed the game tremendously. I love sharing all your videos with my coworkers (normally they too cool for yoga or stretching but when they see and hear you it a different package entirely 😆) right on for using your knowledge to help people like me with the long game, longevity!

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  100. Yanneth A.

    Yanneth A. (verified owner)

    So happy I purchased my trainings!

    Just to say thank youuuu so much for gathering so much valuable experience and information 🙂

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  101. Glen I.

    Glen I. (verified owner)

    Thank you cris

    Great program. Making improvements already!

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  102. Inigo G.

    Inigo G. (verified owner)

    Really appreciate this program

    Cris, you are helping lots of people, starting by yours truly.
    I hope you give yourself credit for that every morning.
    Stay safe mate.

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  103. TJ S.

    TJ S. (verified owner)

    Keep up the great work bro.

    You and I spoke a few years ago – I write for an endurance sports website (mainly focused on triathlon, mtb, xc ski, and distance running). I’m in good shape from all of the above activities, but I knew a better pop-up would really help my surfing, so I dove in and bought your program – worth every fucking penny. Great stuff. I really like what you’ve done in your pop-up program,

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  104. Carl C.

    Carl C. (verified owner)

    Legit!

    I’ve been a fan of Chris Mills for a while . As a lifelong surfer with a shitload of injuries I am always looking for knowledge to keep the body functioning. I can say Chris is legit. He seems to care about everything he speaks about. There is so much info to absorb you almost don’t know where to begin.

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  105. Michel M.

    Michel M. (verified owner)

    Many thanks!

    I find it very interesting and I think that I have already learn something to fix some bad postures I got from time to time… I like the pace of the video and your explanations are great and straight to the point.

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  106. Josh S.

    Josh S. (verified owner)

    Incredible

    I just want to let you know that your Perfect PopUp program has been incredible in helping me progress my surfing mate. Best thing I ever stumbled across. Cheers Legend and thanks again for creating this sick content. I’ve shared it on some surf pages over here in Perth and other people are also loving it.

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  107. Daniele R.

    Daniele R. (verified owner)

    I'm so happy to have found your app!

    im dan from chile living in australia!! first of all i wanted to say that i love your videos, i have been following you for few months and I find your videos incredibly helpful.

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  108. Anton C.

    Anton C. (verified owner)

    Thank you for being so meticulous in your presentation

    I have learned so much from your training videos that I have seen on Youtube. I am trying to speed up my pop up. I watched many videos of the pros in start stop mode. In fact the one that you show at the Surf Ranch is one of them. I broke that one down and came away with the basics as far as putting the back foot down first. However, I saw better surfers at my local break doing the both feet landing on the board at once type of pop up. At that point I was trying to copy them and it really screwed me up.

    I am so happy because your video confirms that I have been on the right track all along. All of the other details that enable a person to have the proper mobility really make a difference. I had been doing some of those exercises because of instructions that I got from your videos on Youtube. This course has it all in one place and I am so grateful for that.

    Thank you for being so meticulous in your presentation. Your mantra of building strength and mobility at home and then using them to surf better has been instrumental in getting me to where I am at today.

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  109. Ben C.

    Ben C. (verified owner)

    Amazing!

    The app rocks. It’s helping me more than any physical practice yet, and that is translating to many things in life.
    Thank you so much for creating this program and app, and for the generous discount!

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  110. Aleksi A.

    Aleksi A. (verified owner)

    Awesome program!

    Coach, you probably get tons of testimonials already, but quickly I want to say that your program is simply awesome. I have done now first 4 weeks of the program and I am already feeling big differences in my body. Earlier I have done crossfit, climbing, yoga etc, but none of these prepare body for the waves or paddling. Also the surfskate program has opened new ideas. I am 43 years old and have surfed only for 3 years but the plan is to keep surfing in my 60s, and with this stuff it is possible.

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  111. Christopher C.

    Christopher C. (verified owner)

    It has helped every aspect of my surfing!

    Hey Cris, my name is Chris Campbell. The program is excellent and has really helped every aspect of my surfing. Specifically, the Perfect Pop Up improved the strength and flexibility of my weak and tight muscles so I could be smoother with my pop up. So yes I am a customer. But I am also an exercise physiologist. Because of my profession, I can really appreciate your expertise. You are incredibly good at what you are doing as a surf strength coach. I just wanted you to know that. Hang in there, man. These are tough times. My wife and I are really struggling too. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

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  112. Dano C.

    Dano C. (verified owner)

    I wish I’d have bought it sooner.

    I was told about Cris and his videos by a friend who was organising a trip to the Mentawais. Initially I just watched the YouTube strength training videos and the ‘packing for a trip to Indo’ which was really useful.
    I randomly ran into Cris in the water at Macaroni’s a few days before the Corona virus forced us all home early.
    When I was allowed back in the water back home, I purchased his program. His relaxed but quick walk up and totally focusing on looking down the line has massively improved my ability to get waves. I hardly ever fall on take off, and that definitely wasn’t the case in Indo

    Once on the wave, the arm/leg/coffee cup positions, no poo man, twist, be like a sprinter feels great, brilliant advice.

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  113. steve r.

    steve r. (verified owner)

    awesome!

    I’ve been in 2nd lockdown in vicco and have had no surf time. i did your pop up course in first lockdown and found it not only great to fix my. pop up but an excellent workout while all gyms were closed. i have also bought a sweet 7″ zak ringmaster with loads of volume to help the intial movement with more stability. then taken that fixed movement back to my 6’4 with sik results. thanks again

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  114. Brennan S.

    Brennan S. (verified owner)

    I love this!

    I love how my body feels more loose and flexible than ever before in my entire 42-year life. I’m as stoked as ever and much of that comes from simply feeling primed and ready to surf.

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  115. Ben C.

    Ben C. (verified owner)

    Awesome!

    Thanks Cris, awesome, you should know that because of your work and communicative skills you are part of a group of people who have transformed my life over the last 5 years…big time bro Much gratitude I can’t believe I’ve only been surfing 5 months!! We have so many years ahead.

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  116. Eric S.

    Eric S. (verified owner)

    Keep it up, Cris!

    Your program has literally saved my surfing. I’m not there yet, but close. The pop up funk was ruining any chance at fun, and whenever I got stuck in a downward dog(WTFI) I was so disgusted I felt like walking away altogether! But I’ve been taking international trips for years, and I will never let that go, even when I get to the age when supping is the only option. After working on the technique, one moment of clarity was seeing how key hip mobility is to keeping it fluid. I think I still have the core strength and reasonable flexibility, so shedding the lbs will be huge. Practicing your method while getting stronger, lighter and more flexible will lead to a great outcome!

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  117. Scott H.

    Scott H. (verified owner)

    Worth every penny!

    Hi Cris, my wife and 8yo daughter gave me your program for Christmas. Since we all surf together it was really a gift for all of us. We’re watching your program as a family…it’s awesome. We usually watch a video or two on the program before we hop on our boards and practice and critique each other on those drills. No more big effort pop ups. Just to land with feet in the wrong position and have to readjust on a critical part of the wave! It’s wild to get this knowledge after surfing nearly 30 years and see how much more fun we can have in the water by being intentional about our focus for that session. It is such a great asset for my coaching my daughter too. It’s crazy to go out in the water and see how few people really pay any attention to their technique. Glad we’re not in that camp any more. You’ve really got some incredible programs and have put a massive amount of work into putting them together. We appreciate that work, the improvements its already bringing to our surfing and even drawing us closer as a family.

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  118. Stephen G.

    Stephen G. (verified owner)

    thanks for putting out an amazing program

    I’m a 54-year-old surfer living in San Francisco. Started when I was 14, lived on the North Shore of Oahu for three seasons and was pretty good in my 20s and early 30s before I had to start a career. I found it very difficult to get back into surfing after a number of years out of the water and struggled getting up especially when the water dropped under 55° in the winter. With boots and tight flexibility I found myself falling all over the place. Your pop up segment has helped me overcome my cold water issues as I’m up sooner with focused drive. Super Duper helpful in so many ways. Dryland walk up with two beers and dippi! thanks for putting out an amazing program. I’m sure many many of others have benefited.

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